Tuesday, November 22, 2022

Critical feedback sent to Dr Elizabeth Howard Moore (9)

Dear Elizabeth Moore,Bob Hudson and all Nakhon Pathom is not Chinese, not Tai or Thai and not Southern Indian. It was Negara Pathian or Persian i.e. Pahtan also called Petani. It was the Persians who settle in Sri lanka and later move up and into Peninsula Malaysia and main land southeast Asia . They were not Cina (Chinese) but of the Saka, the parent stock.Abhira's in ancient Burma and Ahir's in modern India are also of Saka. Also see the site below https://www.penang-traveltips.com/thailand/nakhon-pathom-province.htm 28 days Adam Khan Dear Bob Hudson, cc: to all parties concerned Thanks for your contribution in our ancient Rakhine History. Ancient geography and recent archaeology: Dhanyawadi, Vesali and Mrauk-u. Bob Hudson Archaeology Department, University of Sydney, Australia. “The Forgotten Kingdom of Arakan” History Workshop. Chulalongkorn University, Bangkok, November 2005. Kindly look into the links among Licchavi, Burman's of Tagaung (to me old Pugam; the people of Kan-Raja-Nge) and Rakhine ( the people of Kan-Raja-Gri or Gyi) . Licchavi (tribe) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licchavi_(tribe) Kindly inform your contemporary M/s Gutman, Nyein Lwin, Aung Myint, Thin Kyi, Dr Elizabeth Howard Moore and all that the people of Burma (Burma proper and Frontier regions such as Chin, Kachi, Shan and Kayash or Karreni states of British colonial period ) were/are nothing to do with Yunnan, Kansu or Gansu and any parts of modern Communist China, PRC. Kindly explore more in Licchavi (tribe) so that all of you will realize the old Burmese Chronicles and those who written these were/are wiser than all of you. Best regards. Adam Khan (aka) Raja Saraka 24 days Adam Khan Dear Elizabeth Moe, FYI Dear Ma Moe, FYI Dear Jon Fernquest, You are admitting that U Kala makes all the Western Researchers busy. Quote {U Kala's Mahayazawingyi (U Kala, 1961, 2006) is arguably the most important premodern Burmese chronicle and formed the basis for later chronicles such as the famous Glass Palace chronicle (Pe Maung Tin & Luce, 1923). The historian of premodern Burmese history Victor B. Lieberman uses U Kala's chronicle as the basis for much of his master work Burmese Administrative Cycles (Lieberman, 1984) and has argued for the veracity and central nature of this chronicle (Lieberman, 1986). U Kala's chronicle can be divided into six periods: 1. Rajaniti or short aphoristic sayings about how the ancient institution of Kingship worked (Bechert, 1981), 2. the lineage of Indian kings from an original primordial cycle of world creation and destruction through the life of the Buddha to the great king Asoka, 3. the Pagan period (Pe Maung Tin & Luce, 1923; Frasch, 1996; Aung-Thwin, 1979), 4. Ava period (Fernquest, 2005b 2005c, 2006a, 2006b, 2007, 2016), 5. Toungoo dynasty, and 6. Restored Toungoo dynasty (Lieberman, 1984). Jon Fernquest (PhD Thesis Proposal)} Unquote It is strange and I am wondering why the western scholars are leaning the Chinese (especially white Chinese = KMT Chinese who run away because of Mao's Communists are stronger than them) and writing Siam and Burma were founded and populated by Han Chinese). Obviously the Western Scholars are bias in writing and hitting the Indian Style Burmese Kings. I am doubting that Hte-rava-din Buddhism (ထေရ ဝါ ဒ ဗုဒ္ဓ ဘာ သာ ) is created by not the Asian Monks but the European Politicians to manipulate and divide among Buddhism Countries. They are cunning. There are no good reason and no good intention for the Western Scholars study Asian History but to interfere in the Countries' Politics, geopolitics and intentionally damaging racial harmony. The Burmese Civil Wars are the results of European Interference. So does Siam's Muslim conflicts in the South. STOP INTERFERING. YOU EARN YOUR LIVING BY WRITING OUR HISTORY AS YOU THINK FIT. Regards. Adam Khan (aka) Raja Saraka 23 days Adam Khan FYI Dear Jon Fernquest, I met Nyi Nyi Kyaw who claims to be Rohingya. It is his personal but international fabrication of the term "Rohigya". Beside his report below is Bull Shit. Han Chinese and Tai Chinese are not pauk-phaw ( ေ◌ပါက္ေ◌ဖာ◌္) or “siblings from the same mother” but rather occasional and historical enemies because the Tai and Han Chinese invaded Burma and the latter's decisive defense devastated much larger aggressive expansionist and marked a denting impression on the communist ultra rich ideology as Powerful and Supremacy. Rather PRC changed its approach like what Nyi Nyi Kyaw menions. However we Bufrman's never consider them as relative but a threat in Northeast. Quote { Myanmar and China are, in Chinese President Xi Jinping’s own words, pauk-phaw ( ေ◌ပါက္ေ◌ဖာ◌္) or “siblings from the same mother” that share “fraternal sentiments” and “close ties” that “date back to ancient times.” 1 Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi, describes the pauk-phaw relationship as “a deep foundation for the comprehensive strategic cooperative partnership”2 between the two nations.} Unquote https://www.iseas.edu.sg/images/pdf/ISEAS_Perspective_2020_9.pdf 23 days Adam Khan FYI Dear Jon Fernquest, I am a Muslim but ‌very concern the extreme acts of Wang Pao in Letpadaung Taung, hiiting Burmese Buddhist Monks with the White Phosphorus Bomb (မီးစုံး ဗုံး) . It shows very clearly that majority of current Burmese Military high ranking officials like Mya Tun Oo, Soe Htut, Tun Tun Nyi, Tun Tun Naung, BG's Maung Maung and Zaw Min Tun ( ဇော် မဲ လုံး ) are Chinese not Burman or not from ethnic races of Union of Burma. Why military coup took place in the this democratic era of NLD led leadership renewal? It is very obvious that White Chinese led USDP (namely Than Htay and Khin Yi are white Chinese, not Burmese ). The Tai or KMT had many attempts in collaboration with governments of USA and UK to take over Burma as they looted Siam and Changed the its name to "Thailand". 23 days Adam Khan Communist China never behave like a good neighbour. 2 days Adam Khan Dear John Miksic , Bob Hudson and Elizabeth Moore, Chinese coins of 10th and 11th century Song Dynasty ( Nothern Song) found in Englind, So Chinese were living in England and came claim ownership of the land partially. Refer the following. Quote {As Mark Bridge writes for the Sunday Times, the Northern Song Dynasty coin was discovered with a metal detector in a field in Hampshire, England. Dated to between 1008 and 1016 A.D., the 0.98-inch copper-alloy coin was the second medieval Chinese coin found in England; the first was found across the country in 2018 in Cheshire, per the Independent’s Jon Sharman. Other Chinese currency excavated in England dates to later periods }Unquote https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/medieval-chinese-coin-found-england-suggests-vast-medieval-trade-route-180976675/ If this is not the case do not propose and promote Chinese co-ownership of Singapura which not Chinese, not Arabians, not Malays but Indian Land (the land belongs to our ancestors). Also refer John Crawfurd's notes. Quote { Journal of an embassy from the governor-general of India to the courts of Siam and Cochin China; exhibiting a view of the actual state of those kingdoms Item Preview 72 EMBASSY TO SIAM the north declivity of the hill, nearly of the same size, is said to have been the burying-place of Iskandar Shah, King of Singapore. This is the prince whom tradition describes as having been driven from his throne by the Javanese, in the year 1252 of the Christian era, and who died at Malacca, not converted to the Mohammedan religion, in IS?^ ; so that the story is probably apocryphal. Over the supposed tomb of Iskandar, a rude structure has been raised, since the formation of the new settlement, to which Mohammedans, Hindus, and Chinese, equally resort to do homage. It is remarkable, that many of the fruit-trees cultivated by the ancient inhabitants of Singapore are still existing, on the east- em side of the hill, after a supposed lapse of near six hundred years. Here we find the durian, the rambutan, the duku, the shaddock, and other fruit-trees of great size ; and all so degenerated, except the two first, that the fruit is scarcely to be recognized. Among the ruins are found various descriptions of pottery, some of which is Chinese, and some native. Fragments of this are in great abundance. In the same situation have been found Chinese brass coins of the tenth and eleventh centuries. The earliest is of the Emperor of Ching chung, of the dynasty of Sung- chao, who died in the year 967. Another is of the reign of Jin-chung, of the same dynasty^ }Unquote Thank you. Best regards. adam khan 1 day Adam Khan To, John Miksic , CC: Bob Hudson and Elizabeth Moore, Dear John, You should be familiar with the terms such as navy, naval, nava ( နာ ဝါ ) which are related to ships and shipping, ship building and etc. History of the Indian Navy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Indian_Navy I have posted since last five years back on my blog. Quote {အာရိသသွ်တၱရ တြင္လာရိွသည္မွာ၊ ေမာရိယတိုင္းျပည္ႀကီးတြင္ နာဝါဒီယတ္စရွာ (ဆာ) {=Nawadhyaksha} ကို ေရေႀကာင္းညႊန္ႀကားမႈဦးစီးဌာန (Shipping department) ကို ဦးစီးရန္တာဝန္အပ္ႏွင္းခဲ့၏။ သေဘၤာသားမ်ားကို၊ ေရေႀကာင္းသိပ္ပံ ပညာရပ္မ်ား ႏွင့္ သင့္ေလွ်ာ္ေသာ သင္တန္းမ်ား ေပးရန္ ျပင္ဆင္မႈမ်ား ကို ဤ ဌာနက ျပဳလုပ္ခဲ့၏။ ထိုပညာရပ္မ်ား၊ ကို “ နိယာမ က ရီွးလ္ပါ= Niyamakashilpa” ဟုေခၚခဲ့ႀက၏။ အဂၤလိပ္ေဝါဟာရ ship=သေဘၤာ မွာ ဤ ပါဠိေဝါဟာရ shilpa မွ ဘာသာစကားေရႊ ့ေလ်ာလာမႈ (transliteration) ျဖစ္ခဲ့သည္ဟု ယူဆနိုင္ေပသည္} Unquote In Burmese Union ( ပြည် ထောင်စု ) Font as follow. အာရိသသျှတ္တရ တွင်လာရှိသည်မှာ၊ မောရိယတိုင်းပြည်ကြီးတွင် နာဝါဒီယတ်စရှာ (ဆာ) {=Nawadhyaksha} ကို ရေကြောင်းညွှန်ကြားမှုဦးစီးဌာန (Shipping department) ကို ဦးစီးရန်တာဝန်အပ်နှင်းခဲ့၏။ သင်္ဘောသားများကို၊ ရေကြောင်းသိပ်ပံ ပညာရပ်များ နှင့် သင့်လျှော်သော သင်တန်းများ ပေးရန် ပြင်ဆင်မှုများ ကို ဤ ဌာနက ပြုလုပ်ခဲ့၏။ ထိုပညာရပ်များ၊ ကို “ နိယာမ က ရှီးလ်ပါ= Niyamakashilpa” ဟုခေါ်ခဲ့ကြ၏။ အင်္ဂလိပ်ဝေါဟာရ ship=သင်္ဘော မှာ ဤ ပါဠိဝေါဟာရ shilpa မှ ဘာသာစကားရွှေ့လျောလာမှု (transliteration) ဖြစ်ခဲ့သည်ဟု ယူဆနိုင်ပေသည်။ http://wunzinminraja.blogspot.com/2014/10/champa-nagar-champa.html Thus far during Song Dynasty in 10th to 11th Century, the Chinese were still unable to sail at open sea and oceans. The Indians reach China by Naval Ship and Merchant Navy in this era. The English and westerners borrow our Indian word, Cina ( Qina ) and call these people "Chinese" We, Indians , are leaders in almost every field and you, westerners, are followers. So Singapura was/ is an Indian City and Parameswaran was an Indian not Malay, not Arabian, not Persian. Thank you. Best regards. adam khan

Critical feedback sent to Dr Elizabeth Howard Moore (8)

Maharashtra Ahirs live in the Khandesh region of Maharashtra. The community has been influential in the history of the region. Inscriptions indicate that ancient Abhiras ruled this region and Abhira kings have made a significant contribution to the making of the region. Ahir ethnicity is visible among various castes in Khandesh, including Maratha and Brahmins.[better source needed] Ahirani dialect continues to be spoken today in the region and is widespread across Jalgaon, Dhule and Nashik. It is an admixture of Marathi, Gujarati, Hindi, ancient Magadhi, Saurashtri, Sauraseni, Lati, Maharashtri, Prakrit and Paishachi.[52][53] {https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahir} Oct 3 Adam Khan FYI Dear Bob Hudson, Remember our personal communications, once you informed me about DNA test which I rejected due to misleading selection of smaller sample size where mostly Chinese, Han or else still Chinese. Now I must stress that the Chinese pays/paid researchers for the writings in favour for them, Han and Tai (to me Tai is mere fabrication). Refer the following. Quote {The genetic picture also shows a certain sexual dimorphism in linguistic prehistory. In Baltistan, located in what today is northern Pakistan, the local Tibetan dialects are the most conservative of all Tibetan languages, preserving consonant clusters retained in Classical Tibetan orthography but wholly lost in most other Tibetan dialects. Yet the Balti abandoned the Tibetan script after they were converted to Islam in the fifteenth century, although native activists have in recent years begun reintroducing the Tibetan script, e.g. on shop signs, to the displeasure of central government authorities. Paradoxically, the old consonant clusters ceased to be pronounced as such in most areas throughout Tibet where the conservative indigenous orthography representing these phonological segments remained in use. Genetic studies of the Balti populations show intrusive Y haplogroups from the Near East, whereas the mitochondrial DNA of the Baltis is predominantly Tibetan mtDNA (Poloni et al. 1997, 2000, Zerjal et al. 1997, Quintana-Murci et al. 2001, Qamar et al. 2002). So, the religion of the Balti appears to be a paternal heritage, whilst the languages that they speak are literally mother tongues. } Unquote from George VAN DRIEM's file:///D:/ADAMK/My%20PC%20(DESKTOP-CKJN10J)/Downloads/2007MKS.pdf I will reject all hypotheses and writings which promote the Han or Tai in the history ancient Burma. I al consider those historians and author who write in favour of Han Chinese are biased and unprofessional and unethical . Oct 3 Adam Khan FYI https://wunzinminraja.blogspot.com/2014/02/thu-wunna-bhumi-thatonsathorn-in-siam.html Oct 3 Adam Khan Dear All, I strongly believe that the Corona virus Sars and Covid-19 in the area along the border line of modern Burma and modern Yunnan since the time immemorial. ak Oct 3 Adam Khan Dear Elizabeth Moore, Bob Hudson, John Miksic, Moe Thuzar, ISEAS, AU, Ski Wijaya and All Kindly stop writing fictions. You people wrote and keep writing that the Pre-Bagan Burman's came from modern China and Pinle was Maingmaw. Please withdraw what you have written earlier and revise and resubmit all corrected copies of your works. Kyaw Myo Win or Khaw Myo Win? Is he Burmese or Chinese? We are very unhappy with what G H Luce , Pe Maung Tin, Col Ba Shin and all Chinese wrote about Burma's history Watch the news. Listen to Bo Naga who is asking you to condemn those responsible for arbitrary killings, rapes, burning villages, towns and air raiding. Are you happy with Min Aung Hlaing, USDP ( Mainlyh Chinese at top leadership), UWSA, MNDAA , TNLA and of course PRC Communists? https://www.facebook.com/DVBTVNews/videos/418784153725788/ Oct 4 Adam Khan Dear Bob Hudson, {CC: to all concern parties). I regret to use BS that the following is really bull shit, Bob. Quote {The establishment of central places at Maingmaw, Beikthano, Waddi, Halin and Sriksetra beyond the geographical edge of the old system and within an expanding framework of Indic architecture and Brahmanical kingship can be seen as a means for new societal managers to attract and retain followers. A mechanism for this may have been an adaptation of founder’s cults (Lehman 2003; O'Connor 2003) that had existed in the Samon homeland, as witness the differential burials there. The archaeological evidence at Beikthano points to a number of pre-Buddhist shrines in which the Indic traditions of cremation and urn burial were beginning to replace inhumation, at least for those who merited burial within the ancestor shrines (Stargardt 1994). The leaders of the new settlements adopted Indic auspicious symbols which were circulated on stamped coins (Gutman 1978; Robinson & Shaw 1980; Mitchiner 1982; Mahlo 1998; Win Maung 2002). The combinations of these symbols on coins may have served to differentiate individuals or polities or both. Given the earlier presence of Chinese cultural influences, as shown by the trade in bronze artifacts and the adoption of the Qin tally tiger form for carnelian pendants, the choice of Indian, rather than Chinese, modes of social management looks much more like the deliberate selection of something new and useful than the acceptance of something imposed from outside. This fits the model of active rather than passive “Indianisation”. As far as can be seen so far, the carnelian tigers fell into disuse as the early urban system developed. Very few tiger beads seem to have been found at Pyu sites. There have been two reported at Halin, but as discussed above, prePyu Halin was probably part of the Samon economic system. If the Pyu system represented a society that was “under new management”, and the tigers were marks of status in the old system, then it might be expected that most tigers should be found in Late Prehistoric contexts in the Samon Valley apart from a few that were traded elsewhere.} Unquote You report is mere fabrication based on fabrication of Luce, Pe Maung Ti and Yi Sein, all the Chinese. Bob, please stop all these baseless fabrications which cause genocides in Burma . The Western Historians and Chinese Historians cause the major genocides in Burma. The arbitrary killings are still going on due to these fabrications. Stop it altogether, Bob. Thanks and regards. adam khan